I’m officially a fan now, so you know.

True, but should men continue to save women, or is it up to women to become their own heroes?

Personally, I believe Feminism to be absurd. Even the name, “feminism” denotes a focus upon the female gender, rather than equality amongst the sexes, or even better, the absurdity of judging based on gender.

Instead, current trends in feminism seem to have gone from asking for equal rights to asking for an “equal yet separate” status, similar to the status of black citizens in the earlier 20th century. For women that means reinforcing double standards that both benefit and detract from either gender, much like the male chauvinism purports to fight.

Instead, can’t we all just see ourselves as human beings with certain inalienable rights, whom should be treated and judged with equality, and yet have an inherent duty in being treated and judged equally to do the same for all others, irregardless of our differences?

it isn’t either/or. on the one hand, we should just see ourselves as human beings with shared inalienable rights and common needs. on the other, not every person (or even every member of a group) is the same, and as social animals people band together to represent a cause.

therefore not only are advocacy groups needed, but more than one for women, more than one for blacks, etc. white anglo saxon protestants need groups, but not as much in a society based on their ideals. it’s about equal power and removal of class structure, not sameness of needs or mono-identity.

Or we could just all stop breeding entirely and the problem will eventually go away.

Ummm, no. Society has punished men who take the role of champion by stripping away reward, and leaving the responsibility of supporting the victims. The only sensible alternative is to “slack”. Why support children that are not yours? Why support women who refuse to contribute, citing their contributions as demeaning? Or why deal with people, regardless of their gender, who work according to their inclination or ability, and then decry the role the wear as a result?
I resemble the “ruling class” in color and gender only. I defer to all of you. You want the hot seat of leadership, execution and praxis of ideals? Go for it. I’m goin fishin….

“A woman is only inferior to man in the matter of not being so manly; she is inferior in nothing else. Man is inferior to woman in so far as he is not a woman; there is no other reason.” – G. K. Chesterton

Women are just as capable as men, but they are not equal; nor are they equal with someone of the same gender. Equality implies sameness, and while in the eyes of the law, we ought to be judged equally, from a personal stand point, we, as individuals, should be judged individually.

Who would have guessed that patriarchy apologists read Cat and Girl? Ah, well, at least they’re quiet for the most part.

Filler, I am as bemused as you are. Judging by some of the comments it seems like there are people who just read it for the pictures. I honestly don’t understand that.

I’m so glad I scrolled all the way down and saw other people scratching their heads at those comments. Now I don’t need to go drink myself into as much of a hopeless stupor.

filler, you saved me from shedding tears over cat & girl readership… thank goddess i’m not all alone in my bemusement, too.

well, haven’t we all just gotten ourselves in to the usual quagmire of moral, ethical and social responsibility…who is responsible for who’s treatment of who? in my opinion, we are all responsible for the way we ourselves treat everyone else. its shouldn’t need to be a Social Pressure imparted by radicals that leads us towards equality and respect, but more that it becomes a Social Norm just by people living what they claim to believe…

Regardless of what stance feminism holds, girl already stated her opinion about the word “hero” (substitute for “champion”)

http://catandgirl.com/?p=1257

oh, sure, where was all this passionate commenting when the two mice got eaten in the early strips?

I’m not any good at climbing towers, especially in armor.

Anthropocentrism. In pace requiescat, mice.

Im grateful for the post.Thanks Again. Much obliged.

As a courtesy I hold the door open as a courtesy for anyone closely following me. The majority of people smile and thank me. Then there are the dour, shy or those just having a bad day who barely acknowledge your existence. Finally, every so often you get some person whose face gets that contemptuous look and just has to give you some nasty comment for you displaying a common courtesy. Of course, you’d get a different, but similar comment if you let it close in her face. I try to be a champion for all and despise victmhood. Just, please don’t spit in my face for being your equal opportunity champion.

Golux, despite everything, you point out a specific gender to associate with the double standards of courtesy. This discussion about victim/champion isn’t about any physical acts of chivalry but about the hidden nature of associations like that. Those actions only serve to reinforce those associations, where the associations are the source of our societies ideas on gender and sex.

Reality is much more nuanced then “actions speak louder then words”

Orrenman, well, that is because it’s a sad fact. There are militant absurd feminist *women* like that. It’s not some “hidden association”, it’s an observable fact.

Now, this fact is based on their association of chivalry with male oppression, which in turn is based on society’s traditions regarding gender. But it doesn’t make somehow the aforementioned observation untrue.

And this is true of most stereotypes. If you offer watermelons to people, even in good nature, there may be differing reactions, but offended “Is it because I am black?” reaction can be had only from, well, black people that are aware of that stereotype.

What is sad it is that such aggressive response from self-victimisers may breed further stereotypes.

Seeing that all cases fall within a group and assuming that the whole group consists of such cases is wrong. However, it is likewise wrong to deny such an observation simply because there were no cases outside the group.

Are we not going to mention that there are plenty of men who get totally riled up if you hold the door for them? The act of helping is also an act of saying “I am superior, and I am helping you, the inferior.” It’s all a power play.

And that, dear sir or lady, is yet another stereotype. Not everyone thinks that way, at the very least, not me. And I believe I would not be mistaken, if I say that by many favours are taken in opposite light – as due tribute from the inferior to the superior.